tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6375877529685773294.post1320908251807144430..comments2023-10-25T03:34:04.637-07:00Comments on Birthers: Debunking FactCheck.org’s debunkingDavid Ben-Arielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02271443642557427428noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6375877529685773294.post-85980231539933451262011-01-24T18:25:14.438-08:002011-01-24T18:25:14.438-08:00"The only regime which, in the long run, will..."The only regime which, in the long run, will dare to permit freedom of speech is a Socialist regime. If Fascism triumphs I am finished as a writer — that is to say, finished in my only effective capacity. That of itself would be a sufficient reason for joining a Socialist party."<br /><br />~George OrwellUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04156366496392357056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6375877529685773294.post-65316768919884341172009-08-12T13:38:33.889-07:002009-08-12T13:38:33.889-07:00I can't believe what I just read. Let me get t...I can't believe what I just read. Let me get this straight. A signed, sealed, folded, and stamped document which has the words "live birth" and "certification" printed on top isn't enough to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii? To quote Stephen Colbert's comments on the Certification of Birth "It’s as worthless as this Federal Reserve note. If this was money, it would have “Money” written on it." Are you honestly suggesting that way back in 1961, some random person wrote to the Honolulu Advertiser and lied about Obama's Hawaiian birth, on the off-chance that 46 and a half years later he might run for president? I would like to know what your document analyst said was wrong with the fact check certificate. I will concede that the document released by the campaign could be called dubious, though I still haven't heard any specific criticism of the fact check photos. What is it about the document that prevents it from being "relied upon as genuine?" Even if you're right, what do you plan to do about it? The Supreme Court has rejected every lawsuit filed because you simply don't have evidence. According to the constitution, Obama is "innocent until proven guilty." Therefore the prosecution must prove "beyond reasonable doubt" that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii before anything will happen. In fact, the House of Representatives recently passed a bill commemerating Hawaii's 50 year anniversary as a state. To quote the Huffington Post "Only in this case, the implications of the resolution are much further reaching. That's because, as part of the 456-word resolution, Abercrombie is including the following line: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii..." The resolution passed unanimously. Don't you see?! The country's own legislative body has unanimously rejected the central premise of your movement! I have only one final point. You identified certain connections to Bill Ayers. If we're playing that game I might point out the considerable support your movement receives from various neo-nazi and Klan related groups. Who should we believe, the President of the United States, or the bombers of the Oklahoma City Federal Building?asclepiancanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15485148426875997941noreply@blogger.com